HP71B module database

[HP-Collection]

You shurly know the HP-41 module database. Now it's time to start a second database, for the HP-71B, as promissed.
Before I start with my new project I would like to know what sort of informations do you would like to be included in the database. I would like to build it in the same manner as for the HP-41, a pdf spreadsheet. please let me know the "column titles" I should include.

By-the-way: I'm thinking about publishing the databases in another format than .pdf. I would prefer a real database like I use with access - with the possibility to search, filter, .... but it has to be used by all surfaces: Win, OS X, IOs and Android. Any suggestions?

[Dave Frederickson]

Consider that Sylvain's 71B article started as a module database.

I would like to see you and Sylvain pool resources and create a 71B webpage where all of the documents and ROM images could be organized and downloaded.

Dave

[HP-Collection]

In fact I now Sylvain's /1B article and I really enjoy it. Thanks for this well-founded work.
My database would be more a overview of all existing modules. The detailed informations I would like to pass to Sylvain, as he seems to be more the guy for this.

Certainly I would like to join with Sylvain for this project.

[Dave Frederickson]

(01-01-2016 08:58 PM)HP-Collection Wrote:  In fact I now Sylvain's /1B article and I really enjoy it. Thanks for this well-founded work.
My database would be more a overview of all existing modules. The detailed informations I would like to pass to Sylvain, as he seems to be more the guy for this.

Certainly I would like to join with Sylvain for this project.

Excellent!

In addition to the ROM's on your website and those in Sylvain's articles, I've found references to the following ROM's:

Fire Danger
USA REV 0 M114A1 1 OF 2
USA REV 0 M114A1 2 OF 2
USA, Rev 0, M109A2A3, M198 1 of 2
USA, Rev 0, M109A2A3, M198 2 of 2
USA, Rev 0, M110A2, 1 of 2
USA, Rev 0, M110A2, 2 of 2
USA REV 0 LANCE 1 OF 2
USA REV 0 LANCE 2 OF 2
DDCT for Datum-to-Datum Coordinate Transformation and here on eBay.
82494 REV 0 SURVEY 1 of 1 SINGAPORE

I believe all of the "USA" modules belong to the US Army BackUp Computer System (BUCS) as does the DDCT (and here) module.

Dave

[Sylvain Cote]

(01-01-2016 08:58 PM)HP-Collection Wrote:  In fact I now Sylvain's /1B article and I really enjoy it. Thanks for this well-founded work.
My database would be more a overview of all existing modules. The detailed informations I would like to pass to Sylvain, as he seems to be more the guy for this.

Certainly I would like to join with Sylvain for this project.

Hello Matthias,

I just posted an updated version of the 71B Compendium article, take what you need for your database.
Now that the PDF version is out, I am now able to add more data, any informations you want to share, I will gladly take it.
I still have a serious backlog of informations to enter in the article, so, for the coming weeks, I will publish an update once or twice a week.

Best regards,

Sylvain

[HP-Collection]

Hehehe, cuburlin. Just saw in my database that I still have the DDCT Module

[HP-Collection]

I just started with the HP modules itself. Is that the way you like it or what column do I have to add?

Please feel free for corrections, especially numbers of key overlays.

[Sylvain Cote]

(01-10-2016 08:52 PM)HP-Collection Wrote:  Please feel free for corrections, especially numbers of key overlays.

Hello Matthias,

Here are some corrections and/or suggestions:
1) You should put a HP-71B image at the top right
2) HHP Card Reader EPROM modules also support 32KB
3) I may be wrong but I think the Forth/Assembler ROM Debugger Upgrade (HP-82478A) was delivered on floppy disk
4) Missing: HP-00071-90097 Software Developers' Handbook (I think there was a possibility to order it either on tape or on magnetic cards)
5) CMT also sold OTP (one-time programmable) modules for the HP-71
6) "CAT Output" should be replaced with "VER$ Output or Result", look at the HP-71B Compendium for the VER$ values
7) I am readying an new update with additional softwares delivered as ROM modules or on media not showing on your list

Best regards,

Sylvain

[rprosperi]

(01-10-2016 09:33 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:  3) I may be wrong but I think the Forth/Assembler ROM Debugger Upgrade (HP-82478A) was delivered on floppy disk

This is correct, however at the time, EduCalc was offering to supply buyer of any HP non-ROM software product their choice of media: disk, tape, or (usually) cards, depending on size. And the labels used by EduCalc generally looked as official as those supplied on original media by HP, so it's hard today to tell which ones were the "original" media type. Likely only of interest to 'hard core' collectors, which I happen to know both of you are.

[J-F Garnier]

(01-10-2016 09:33 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:  ... the Forth/Assembler ROM Debugger Upgrade (HP-82478A) was delivered on floppy disk

Here is my original 5.25" and 3.5" floppy disks with the debugger, the 5.25" disk was for use with HPLINK on my Vectra PC.



J-F

[HP-Collection]

(01-10-2016 09:33 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:  

(01-10-2016 08:52 PM)HP-Collection Wrote:  Please feel free for corrections, especially numbers of key overlays.

Hello Matthias,

Here are some corrections and/or suggestions:
1) You should put a HP-71B image at the top right
2) HHP Card Reader EPROM modules also support 32KB
3) I may be wrong but I think the Forth/Assembler ROM Debugger Upgrade (HP-82478A) was delivered on floppy disk
4) Missing: HP-00071-90097 Software Developers' Handbook (I think there was a possibility to order it either on tape or on magnetic cards)
5) CMT also sold OTP (one-time programmable) modules for the HP-71
6) "CAT Output" should be replaced with "VER$ Output or Result", look at the HP-71B Compendium for the VER$ values
7) I am readying an new update with additional softwares delivered as ROM modules or on media not showing on your list

Best regards,

Sylvain

1) Well, the HP-41 belongs to the HP-Collection logo.... maybe I have to think about that again, but you are absolutly right.
2) Thanks, changed.
3) Correct, my boxed version has the same Floppies as J.Fs. So, are there two or three different versions?
- Forth Assembler (I do not have a box labeled only with the Assembler)
- Forth Assember with debugger (I have boxed, so it exists like this)
- Debugger Upgrade (I have boxed, so it exists like this)
4) Right, added... also the Solution books are not implemented yet.
5) How can I see the difference between the CMT modules and the OTP (I guess the OTPs dont have a "window". Do you have pictures?
6) Ver$ is chosen, thanks
7) ok, but my collection is not the same size as Hp-41 modules

[Dave Frederickson]

The seller identified the modules, below.



USA REV 0, M101A1, 1 OF 2 & 2 OF 2

Another BUCS set of modules.

[smp]

(02-02-2016 02:19 AM)Dave Frederickson Wrote:  USA REV 0, M101A1, 1 OF 2 & 2 OF 2

Another BUCS set of modules.

I'm sorry, but I do not understand. Can you please define what a BUCS module is?

I've never heard of these.

Thanks!
smp

[Dave Frederickson]

(02-02-2016 11:40 AM)smp Wrote:  Can you please define what a BUCS module is?

(01-01-2016 10:45 PM)Dave Frederickson Wrote:  I believe all of the "USA" modules belong to the US Army BackUp Computer System (BUCS) as does the DDCT (and here) module.

[smp]

(02-02-2016 03:37 PM)Dave Frederickson Wrote:  

(02-02-2016 11:40 AM)smp Wrote:  Can you please define what a BUCS module is?

(01-01-2016 10:45 PM)Dave Frederickson Wrote:  I believe all of the "USA" modules belong to the US Army BackUp Computer System (BUCS) as does the DDCT (and here) module.

First, thanks very much, Dave, for your patience and your reply.

Second, I apologize for not looking back in the thread to find the link that you pointed out. I read through that material, and I enjoyed it. I had never heard of this before and it was very interesting!

Thanks again,
smp

[Bill (Smithville NJ)]

(01-01-2016 10:45 PM)Dave Frederickson Wrote:  Excellent!

In addition to the ROM's on your website and those in Sylvain's articles, I've found references to the following ROM's:

Fire Danger
Dave

No sure if this is the "Fire Danger" module or a different module:


Fire Behavior Computations with the Hewlett-Packard HP-71 B Calculator


Bill
Smithville, NJ

[Dave Frederickson]

(02-03-2016 01:30 AM)Bill (Smithville NJ) Wrote:  No sure if this is the "Fire Danger" module or a different module:


Fire Behavior Computations with the Hewlett-Packard HP-71 B Calculator

That's a document for the Fire Behavior module. Here's the Fire Danger document. According the the document, a Fire Danger module exists.

Dave

[HP-Collection]

Is someone capable to download the Fire Danger manual here?

[Didier Lachieze]

(02-03-2016 12:51 PM)HP-Collection Wrote:  Is someone capable to download the Fire Danger manual here?

It's available here.

[HP-Collection]

Hi

Thanks... just downloaded.... now playing with it...