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Harald · 06-24-2016, 07:31 PM

Does anyone know what the production numbers are? And maybe also for the standard 32S and 32Sii?

Do all anniversary editions have the old display with slightly smaller characters?

I was lucky to aquire a mint example 2 days ago.

Marcio · 06-24-2016, 09:15 PM

Could you upload a picture of it?

Thanks

Harald · 06-25-2016, 11:27 AM

(06-24-2016 09:15 PM)Marcio Wrote: Could you upload a picture of it?

Thanks

The lighting could have been better, but it has been raining here all day. So here is just a quick shot of the 32S Anniversary a standard 32S and the 32Sii that brought me through school.

[Image: hp322iony.jpg]

Sylvain Cote · 06-25-2016, 11:50 AM

(06-24-2016 07:31 PM)Harald Wrote: Does anyone know what the production numbers are? And maybe also for the standard 32S and 32Sii?

Do all anniversary editions have the old display with slightly smaller characters?

I was lucky to aquire a mint example 2 days ago.

Code:

HP-32S    / SN:2816A07260 / smaller LCD / USA

HP-32S 50 / SN:2909A33489 / smaller LCD / USA

HP-32S    / SN:3046S01998 / bigger  LCD / Singapour

HP-32S-II / SN:ID94210261 / bigger  LCD / Indonesia

Marcio · 06-25-2016, 11:56 AM

They look fantastic. I wish I had one of those.

Congratulations.

Harald · 06-26-2016, 08:53 AM

(06-25-2016 11:50 AM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:
(06-24-2016 07:31 PM)Harald Wrote: Does anyone know what the production numbers are? And maybe also for the standard 32S and 32Sii?

Do all anniversary editions have the old display with slightly smaller characters?

I was lucky to aquire a mint example 2 days ago.

Code:

HP-32S / SN:2816A07260 / smaller LCD / USA HP-32S 50 / SN:2909A33489 / smaller LCD / USA HP-32S / SN:3046S01998 / bigger LCD / Singapour HP-32S-II / SN:ID94210261 / bigger LCD / Indonesia

Thanks for the serial numbers! That is interesting!
My Anniversary editon has 2909A10254 (I guess all of them had a 2909 number). The other 32S has 3051S03029. So apparently a fairly early one from Singapour.

But what I was actually wondering was, how many were produced.

Massimo Gnerucci · 06-26-2016, 09:05 AM

(06-26-2016 08:53 AM)Harald Wrote: My Anniversary editon has 2909A10254 (I guess all of them had a 2909 number).

No. Mine is 2903A301##

HP-Collection · 06-26-2016, 12:34 PM

I have a 2912A30XXX Anniversary Edition

Sylvain Cote · 06-26-2016, 12:46 PM

Hello Harald,

(06-26-2016 08:53 AM)Harald Wrote: Do all anniversary editions have the old display with slightly smaller characters?

From our limited sample, it seems that the calculators made in USA has the smaller LCD and the other ones has the bigger LCD.
I suspect it's not by model but by manufacturing location.
If we expand the sampling to all the pioneer with single line display models, we should see the same result.
I have all the models here, I will look later today and see if my hypothesis is valid.

(06-26-2016 08:53 AM)Harald Wrote: But what I was actually wondering was, how many were produced.

That, I have no clue!

Sylvain

Dave Frederickson · 06-26-2016, 04:10 PM

(06-26-2016 12:46 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote: From our limited sample, it seems that the calculators made in USA has the smaller LCD and the other ones has the bigger LCD.
I suspect it's not by model but by manufacturing location.
If we expand the sampling to all the pioneer with single line display models, we should see the same result.
I have all the models here, I will look later today and see if my hypothesis is valid.

From my initial observation, the models with a flat bezel have the smaller characters and the models with the recessed display, the larger characters.

Didier Lachieze · 06-26-2016, 04:51 PM

(06-26-2016 12:46 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:
(06-26-2016 08:53 AM)Harald Wrote: But what I was actually wondering was, how many were produced.

That, I have no clue!

Sylvain

The 14B and 32S anniversary edition were available to HP employees and stockholders only as mentioned page 31 in the Measure issue from March/April 1989 available here. In 1989 there were 95000 HP employees according to the 1989 annual report available here, but we don't know how many ordered a 32S anniversary edition.

**rprosperi** · 06-27-2016, 01:58 AM

I believe the 50th Ann. Editions of the 32S and 14B were released when these models were introduced, which is why they are the earlier flat-type (smaller) LCD.

After some production time, HP introduced the late-style models with the recessed-style (larger) LCD display from overseas factories.

The 32S, 27S, 42S and 22S all were released in both early- and late-style LCDs, similar to the 32SII, 17BII, 10B and 20S being released in early- and late-style color schemes.

I have no production numbers, just figured all this out from samples I've collected and seen.

BTW - I'd like to know if anyone really has an HP-22S with the late-style recessed LCD. Photos of them exist, but I'm not aware of any actual units in the wild.

Sylvain Cote · (This post was last modified: 07-11-2016 11:32 AM by Sylvain Cote.)

(06-27-2016 01:58 AM)rprosperi Wrote: I believe the 50th Ann. Editions of the 32S and 14B were released when these models were introduced, which is why they are the earlier flat-type (smaller) LCD.

After some production time, HP introduced the late-style models with the recessed-style (larger) LCD display from overseas factories.

The 32S, 27S, 42S and 22S all were released in both early- and late-style LCDs, similar to the 32SII, 17BII, 10B and 20S being released in early- and late-style color schemes.

I have no production numbers, just figured all this out from samples I've collected and seen.

BTW - I'd like to know if anyone really has an HP-22S with the late-style recessed LCD. Photos of them exist, but I'm not aware of any actual units in the wild.

Hello Robert,

I have seen/own theses models using the Pioneer case style

Code:

Pioneer      LCD          Color

------------ ------------ -----

HP-20S       RecessType1  Brown

HP-20S       RecessType1  Green

HP-21S       RecessType1  Brown

HP-22S       Flat         Brown

HP-22S       RecessType2  Brown

HP-27S       Flat         Brown

HP-27S       RecessType2  Brown

HP-32S       Flat         Brown

HP-32S       RecessType2  Brown

HP-32S 50th  Flat         Brown

HP-32SII     RecessType2  Brown

HP-32SII     RecessType2  Green

HP-42S       Flat         Brown

HP-42S       RecessType2  Brown

HP-10B       RecessType1  Brown

HP-10B       RecessType1  Green

HP-14B       Flat         Brown

HP-14B 50th  Flat         Brown

HP-17B       Flat         Brown

HP-17BII     RecessType2  Brown

HP-17BII     RecessType2  Black

Do you have pictures for the 10B and the 20S in alternate color ?

Best regards,

Sylvain

edit: I have found the HP-20S (green) and Didier found the HP-10B (green).

Didier Lachieze · 07-11-2016, 04:42 AM

(07-11-2016 01:30 AM)Sylvain Cote Wrote: Do you have pictures for the 10B and the 20S in alternate color ?

You can see a 10b in alternate color here.

Sylvain Cote · 07-11-2016, 05:32 AM

(07-11-2016 04:42 AM)Didier Lachieze Wrote:
(07-11-2016 01:30 AM)Sylvain Cote Wrote: Do you have pictures for the 10B and the 20S in alternate color ?

You can see a 10b in alternate color here.

I had never saw that one before ... superbe! Merci Didier 8-)
Best regards,
Sylvain

Alejandro Paz(Germany) · 07-11-2016, 11:48 AM

Quote:The 14B and 32S anniversary edition were available to HP employees and stockholders only as mentioned page 31 in the Measure issue from March/April 1989 available here. In 1989 there were 95000 HP employees according to the 1989 annual report available here, but we don't know how many ordered a 32S anniversary edition.

I'd have told my father to order one at the time, except that I had no clue about their existence, nor of the offer... well, I got my HP-67 at the time... I had a HP-12C too Smile

.

**rprosperi** · 07-11-2016, 01:32 PM

(07-11-2016 01:30 AM)Sylvain Cote Wrote: I have seen/own theses models using the Pioneer case style

HP-22S RecessType2 Brown

I have seen the photo of the late-type 22S here on the museum, but never seen one live. Do you have one or just recall seeing one? I'm still wondering if they were commercially produced.

Along the lines of these machines coming in different styles & colors, a recent post elsewhere here pointed out something I never noticed (though I own both). The very late 19BII with the rear door was actually produced in a different color scheme than prior 19BIIs. The case is a darker brown/close to black (similar to the darker case of the late 10B/20S/32SII/17BII) and the keys are also different colors. And the panel on the left above the alpha-keys does not provide the simple help for several key functions, rather it explains how to select the user-language, in several languages, so maybe this late model was only released in a multi-language version.

Sylvain Cote · 07-12-2016, 12:10 AM

Robert,

(07-11-2016 01:32 PM)rprosperi Wrote: I have seen the photo of the late-type 22S here on the museum, but never seen one live.
Do you have one or just recall seeing one? I'm still wondering if they were commercially produced.

Of the 21 pioneer case variant above, until yesterday, I had 15, but now 17 Smile

in my collection and actively searching for the missing 4 including the 22S recess.

(07-11-2016 01:32 PM)rprosperi Wrote: Along the lines of these machines coming in different styles & colors, a recent post elsewhere here pointed out something I never noticed (though I own both).
The very late 19BII with the rear door was actually produced in a different color scheme than prior 19BIIs. The case is a darker brown/close to black (similar to the darker case of the late 10B/20S/32SII/17BII) and the keys are also different colors. And the panel on the left above the alpha-keys does not provide the simple help for several key functions, rather it explains how to select the user-language, in several languages, so maybe this late model was only released in a multi-language version.

I was aware of it, but just to sure I just checked with the ones I have, and of course, you are right, as usual.

Sylvain

**rprosperi** · 07-12-2016, 12:17 AM

(07-12-2016 12:10 AM)Sylvain Cote Wrote: Of the 21 pioneer case variant above, until yesterday, I had 15, but now 17 in my collection and actively searching for the missing 4 including the 22S recess.

I have 20/21, still looking for that elusive recessed 22S... as is Dave, and several other members here.

Anyone really have one, or are we searching in vain???

Dave Frederickson · 07-12-2016, 12:27 AM

(07-12-2016 12:17 AM)rprosperi Wrote:
(07-12-2016 12:10 AM)Sylvain Cote Wrote: Of the 21 pioneer case variant above, until yesterday, I had 15, but now 17 in my collection and actively searching for the missing 4 including the 22S recess.

I have 20/21, still looking for that elusive recessed 22S... as is Dave, and several other members here.

Anyone really have one, or are we searching in vain???

Correct! I called dibbs if one appears on eBay.

Dave