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Are PIL-Boxes still available?
07-28-2024, 12:30 AM
Post: #41
RE: Are PIL-Boxes still available?
Just FYI, I was obviously the first person interested looking at this thread Smile Put me down for two please. Thanks!
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07-30-2024, 01:21 AM
Post: #42
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Please include me in the list of interested customers also! Plagiarized GJ Carter's post
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07-30-2024, 03:35 AM
Post: #43
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Quick update - the prototype boxes are performing well and a few design tweaks have been learned. The next design iteration is done and in the process for a beta run of units. As soon as those arrive and pass testing, I‘ll reach out and make sure people get their boxes asap.

Cheers,

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07-30-2024, 10:56 AM
Post: #44
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Hi, kinda late to the party - also interested in bying one box once available.

Stay healthy and keep calculating,
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07-31-2024, 07:12 AM
Post: #45
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I would also like to be counted among interested prospective purchasers!

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08-02-2024, 06:08 PM
Post: #46
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Don't forget me. I want one too
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08-04-2024, 08:09 AM
Post: #47
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hi, i’m another one interested to buy a pil-box or new replacement, please count me in

greetings from Offenbach, Germany

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08-09-2024, 10:20 AM
Post: #48
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Hi Peter,

Yep, count me in as well for one (or two?) of the new PIL-Boxes.
I'd probably go for one of the pre-assembled ones rather than a kit.

Thanks,
-Jeff
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08-20-2024, 10:06 PM
Post: #49
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I am interested in a PIL-Box too. I just got a HP-71B.
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08-21-2024, 05:17 AM
Post: #50
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Looks fantastic. I want one as well. Don’t really care about the price (within reason).
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08-22-2024, 06:53 AM
Post: #51
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I am also interested.


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08-22-2024, 02:58 PM
Post: #52
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I'm interested as well! Thanks for the good work!

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08-22-2024, 04:03 PM
Post: #53
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(06-21-2024 11:08 AM)PeterP Wrote:  I propose smdPIL-Box given the choice of components, size, etc.

Yes, software will be the same for now.

That's great to hear!

My which list (as for now) would be complete if the DM41X had HP-IL capabilities over its USB connector - someone from SwissMicros reading this?

Cheers!
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08-28-2024, 02:11 AM
Post: #54
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I'm curious... is HPIL used anywhere in the real world? or is it just we old-timers who just want to play with it again?
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08-28-2024, 02:44 AM
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How did you decide on the 78601/1JC, other than the fact that it's the first that comes up on digikey when searching for general-purpose 1:1 pulse transformers? Smile

I've read through 82166, and I didn't see any guidelines for picking the pulse transformers.
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08-28-2024, 03:06 AM
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(08-28-2024 02:11 AM)John Ioannidis Wrote:  I'm curious... is HPIL used anywhere in the real world? or is it just we old-timers who just want to play with it again?

It’s how we HP71B fans connect stuff to our devices.
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08-28-2024, 07:43 AM (This post was last modified: 08-28-2024 08:03 AM by J-F Garnier.)
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(08-28-2024 02:11 AM)John Ioannidis Wrote:  I'm curious... is HPIL used anywhere in the real world? or is it just we old-timers who just want to play with it again?

HP-IL has been in use in the HP 5890 Series of Gas Chromatograph under the name of "INET", long after the end of the HP-IL for calculators.
For long, spare boards for these products were a source of HP-IL components.


(08-28-2024 02:44 AM)John Ioannidis Wrote:  How did you decide on the 78601/1JC, other than the fact that it's the first that comes up on digikey when searching for general-purpose 1:1 pulse transformers? Smile

I selected the transformer based on Hans Brueggemann's measurements, see here.
If interested, it can be worth to read the entire thread, there are a lot of information on the subject.

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08-28-2024, 07:34 PM
Post: #58
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(08-28-2024 07:43 AM)J-F Garnier Wrote:  
(08-28-2024 02:11 AM)John Ioannidis Wrote:  I'm curious... is HPIL used anywhere in the real world? or is it just we old-timers who just want to play with it again?

HP-IL has been in use in the HP 5890 Series of Gas Chromatograph under the name of "INET", long after the end of the HP-IL for calculators.
For long, spare boards for these products were a source of HP-IL components.


(08-28-2024 02:44 AM)John Ioannidis Wrote:  How did you decide on the 78601/1JC, other than the fact that it's the first that comes up on digikey when searching for general-purpose 1:1 pulse transformers? Smile

I selected the transformer based on Hans Brueggemann's measurements, see here.
If interested, it can be worth to read the entire thread, there are a lot of information on the subject.

J-F

Very nice! Thank you!
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08-30-2024, 01:28 PM
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(08-28-2024 02:11 AM)John Ioannidis Wrote:  I'm curious... is HPIL used anywhere in the real world? or is it just we old-timers who just want to play with it again?

Hi John,

I'd say that the HP-IL module was essential to communicate with the HP-IL printer (HP 82162A) and the mass storage device (HP 82161A). Anyone who has one of those needs the IL module. There were also other devices such as the video interface (HP 82163), serial interface (HP 82164A), GPIO interface (HP 82165A) etc. I personally own a digital multimeter with HP-IL connectivity (HP 3468A).
Apart from those old-days devices, the recent HP-IL box offers a serial connectivity through USB. The software bundle from Jean-François Garnier and Christoph Giesselink allows the connectivity to and within a computer (via TCP/IP). With this it is not only possible to get data to and from the computer but it would be therotically also possible to e.g., read out a device in Tokyo, print the results in Cape Town, store the data in Buenos Aires and control this from New York - that is the HP-IL loop taken to its extremes.
Maybe not something essential in the real world but a convenient tool that outsiders would categorize as toy.

Cheers
Frido
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